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Green energy's growing pains

Charlotte Observer -- Siemens Energy's 825-job announcement this week gave a big bounce to Charlotte's growing energy hub, which promises to help refocus the city's banker-intensive image.

Far fewer so far are the jobs in green energy, such as solar power and energy efficiency, that Gov. Bev Perdue and President Obama have touted. All but four of the 15 energy-jobs announcements the Charlotte Chamber has made in the past two years focused on nuclear or fossil-fueled power.

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Submitted Mar 14, 2010 By: JOHNNY95206

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:10,805 Points:634,325 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:43:47 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Siemens has long been a stable company. Hope it works out for Charlotte.
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:5,990 Points:694,570 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 4:21:40 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse I never for one believed Obama on most of his promises, kind of like Bush too and others. I see through their lies. He IS a liar! Just like Bush and Clinton before him.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:32,174 Points:1,300,220 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:53:29 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse rvn4me wrote: >There is nothing wrong with nuclear except that the >administration doesnt want it. Well, they're proceeding with the Nuclear Power 2010 Program. [Edited by: Sneakers55 at 3/14/2010 11:55:22 AM EST]
njerald Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,912 Points:670,380 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:32:35 AM Ignore njerald Report Abuse More government apologists......... [Edited by: njerald at 3/14/2010 11:32:47 AM EST]
ljmatney Champion Author Wichita Posts:4,024 Points:565,120 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:20:51 AM Ignore ljmatney Report Abuse As the industry grows, the jobs will too.
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,233 Points:663,480 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:20:25 AM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse Don20, Were those saved or created?
Don20 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,760 Points:1,650,750 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:18:13 AM Ignore Don20 Report Abuse Far fewer so far are the jobs in green energy, such as solar power and energy efficiency, that Gov. Bev Perdue and President Obama have touted. B.O. will count these jobs as thousands of new jobs..
wizzard1222 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,728 Points:1,347,090 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:15:16 AM Ignore wizzard1222 Report Abuse They may be targeting Green...but jobs are jobs !! Let's pray & hope... the Pres. & Gov. are not pushing ($Spending $Billions in a wasteful mode) their 'plans' @ the expense of the $Taxpayers !!!
PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,290 Points:679,405 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:05:47 AM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse New jobs don't necessarily mean more jobs.
RoadhogMA Champion Author Boston Posts:2,099 Points:478,575 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:05:18 AM Ignore RoadhogMA Report Abuse Going Green a Big Spin .
Hugo40 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:2,763 Points:654,910 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:05:11 AM Ignore Hugo40 Report Abuse Still a lot of jobs needed in the economy.
adr47 Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:2,416 Points:541,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:04:34 AM Ignore adr47 Report Abuse Many players of course there are going to be growing pains.
smoketown Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,880 Points:597,260 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:01:18 AM Ignore smoketown Report Abuse The green must get greener...............
CLM06 Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,714 Points:1,118,165 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:59:42 AM Ignore CLM06 Report Abuse They open a new plant in one area with many new jobs then they lay off workers at the old plant. so where is the increase in Jobs?
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,658 Points:726,250 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:59:04 AM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Glad to see more jobs, but Washington is doing nothing to help the job market.
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:4,531 Points:880,475 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:58:48 AM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse when you get a green job you lose a real jobs
fire@53 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,086 Points:1,830,375 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:58:31 AM Ignore fire@53 Report Abuse Green jobs right now is just hype.
GasholeMI Champion Author Lansing Posts:5,309 Points:764,790 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:55:41 AM Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse More jobs are good. Far too little effort has been spent on more jobs. To me jobs are the key to this recovery.
mysub Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:4,328 Points:1,367,640 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:55:22 AM Ignore mysub Report Abuse It's a start.
impala2008 All-Star Author Ontario Posts:594 Points:214,030 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:53:59 AM Ignore impala2008 Report Abuse Doesn't help the price of gas
beaverkeeper Champion Author Hamilton Posts:7,913 Points:1,611,505 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:53:28 AM Ignore beaverkeeper Report Abuse It may be good news for Charlotte but it means that Siemens is closeing their plant here and putting their employees in Hamilton out of work in order to move the plant to Charlotte where I assume the labour costs are much lower.
bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,496 Points:328,790 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:53:25 AM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse We need the jobs here!
LongPlay All-Star Author Albuquerque Posts:826 Points:392,165 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:53:08 AM Ignore LongPlay Report Abuse "Green Jobs" are a fantasy that is wasting our money.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,752 Points:1,055,365 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:50:31 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse New technologies always take time to work through a transition period before taking hold. Patience.
Zuman Champion Author New York Posts:1,519 Points:966,990 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:49:54 AM Ignore Zuman Report Abuse Just look at Spains green jobs for a reality check.
niceguytx Champion Author Houston Posts:8,973 Points:1,751,675 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:48:37 AM Ignore niceguytx Report Abuse I hope we can diversify our use of energy and become much more self-sufficient.
nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:2,503 Points:631,130 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:46:15 AM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse energy fun. It's take 10 years before we can see a clear direction.
captngasTN Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,738 Points:430,650 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:45:36 AM Ignore captngasTN Report Abuse good to see the progress even if only temporary
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:3,003 Points:600,685 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:43:43 AM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse MOST OF THOSE JOBS ARE TEMPORARY, UNTIL THE PLANT IN FINISHED AND THEN THEY ARE BACK OUT LOOKING FOR WORK.
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:3,451 Points:737,295 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:42:04 AM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse The names are mentioned as to where the problem lies. Get into bed with Washington politics and get burned. Promise was CHANGE and that is the type of CORRUPTION that we all got.
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,709 Points:729,110 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:39:14 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse They aren't helping the average Joe to get a job and you can bet on that.
trojanbuck Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,895 Points:798,640 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:37:29 AM Ignore trojanbuck Report Abuse How much are each of those jobs going to cost the taxpayers?
9C1 Champion Author Chicago Posts:17,710 Points:3,282,595 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:37:24 AM Ignore 9C1 Report Abuse Go nuclear and be done with it.
rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:1,872 Points:556,285 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:36:30 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse We do need other sources of energy. There is nothing wrong with nuclear except that the administration doesnt want it.
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:9,498 Points:1,705,985 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:34:16 AM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse CISA, what a statement. Why not just say something of interest?
CISA Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,124 Points:679,195 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:32:46 AM Ignore CISA Report Abuse noted
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:4,579 Points:929,560 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:30:53 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse Green energy is not the savior of the world, at least not this decade.
ssect8 Champion Author Hartford Posts:3,107 Points:1,225,650 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:29:32 AM Ignore ssect8 Report Abuse Wind and solar are a big joke, we just need to go to nuclear and be done with it.
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:4,046 Points:1,415,815 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:16:46 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Jobs are dollars and we need all we can develop right now. Renewable energy jobs are very few right now and the cost of development is high. They will be a deciding factor in the next 10 years though.
Asbury09 Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,402 Points:562,755 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:13:24 AM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse they will probably produce the jobs
arinkrat17 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,507 Points:367,490 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:12:41 AM Ignore arinkrat17 Report Abuse how much did Obama give them $$$$$$$??
hauler43 Champion Author Oakland Posts:4,834 Points:1,858,505 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:12:33 AM Ignore hauler43 Report Abuse It might have too do also with whom and who you know also. How the proposal is written up too create jobs and what not.
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,121 Points:775,150 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:10:10 AM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse Ditto to Nicoalbum. The aimless new prez is giving more of our money away. Can't wait for the coming elections to get rid of them all.
357revo Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:11,408 Points:1,413,145 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:10:06 AM Ignore 357revo Report Abuse Use proven technology [nuclear and fossil fuel] to produce an ample supply of cheap energy, and it will be easier, and cheaper, to develop innovative forms of energy like solar and wind. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to screw the American public by artificially forcing up the cost of electricity to match what solar and wind must charge now to be profitable, even with substantial taxpayer subsidies. BTW, the myth of global warming is being used to artificially increase the cost of fossil fuel energy, by making carbon sequestration a prerequisite of new fossil plants. CO2 sequestration/control is unnecessary, because climate modification by CO2 control is a boondoggle. However, CO2 controls on fossil fueled power plants and on gasoline and diesel fired vehicles WILL force up the cost of using that technology, needlessly.
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:1,688 Points:307,255 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:07:28 AM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse Siemens makes substations and handle power, it doe matter to them who generate it. it all profitable.
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:4,429 Points:867,875 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:07:02 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse It would be nice if they could times that number by ten.
2907 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,444 Points:790,770 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:04:30 AM Ignore 2907 Report Abuse So I guess the customers of Siemens will pay for this?
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,957 Points:881,740 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:02:56 AM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Give Siemens some stimulus money. They will use it for the purpose it was designed - Jobs.
mark1962 Champion Author Albany Posts:1,536 Points:333,620 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:59:52 AM Ignore mark1962 Report Abuse Great for them. I hope they win!
jmg144 Champion Author Maryland Posts:6,746 Points:2,010,475 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:59:27 AM Ignore jmg144 Report Abuse "Green" has some "other colors" mixed in